Talmud su II Re 14:10
הַכֵּ֤ה הִכִּ֙יתָ֙ אֶת־אֱד֔וֹם וּֽנְשָׂאֲךָ֖ לִבֶּ֑ךָ הִכָּבֵד֙ וְשֵׁ֣ב בְּבֵיתֶ֔ךָ וְלָ֤מָּה תִתְגָּרֶה֙ בְּרָעָ֔ה וְנָ֣פַלְתָּ֔ה אַתָּ֖ה וִיהוּדָ֥ה עִמָּֽךְ׃
Hai davvero colpito Edom e il tuo cuore ti solleverà? gloria in esso, e rimanere a casa; perché dovresti immischiarti con il male, che dovresti cadere, anche tu, e Giuda con te?
Jerusalem Talmud Moed Katan
Who permits61An excommunication proclaimed by a competent court, which does not expire automatically after 30 days.? Did we not state, if one of the excommunicators died one may not permit him62Babli 16a, somewhat different.? Rebbi Joshua ben Levi said, this you are saying in the absence of a Patriarch. But if there is a Patriarch, the Patriarch permits63Babli 17a.. Rebbi Jacob bar Aḥa in the name of Rebbi Abba bar Mamal: It happened that one of the excommunicators died and they did not permit him. Did not Rebbi Joshua ben Levi say, this you are saying in the absence of a Patriarch, but if there is a Patriarch, the Patriarch permits? What Rebbi Jacob bar Aḥa in the name of Rebbi Abba bar Mamal said is confirmed if he did not reform64If there is no legal basis for excommunication any competent court can revoke it.. Rebbi Jacob bat Abbay in the name of Rav Sheshet: At Usha65Where rabbinic Judaism (as far as it differs from its predecessor, Pharisaic Judaism) was organized after the end of the Hadrianic persecutions. they voted not to excommunicate an ordained rabbi. This parallels what Rebbi Samuel said in the name of Rebbi Abbahu: One does not strip an ordained rabbi who is guilty of something of his title but tells him, respect yourself and sit in your house662K. 14:10. An overriding authority has to forbid him to act as Rabbi. Babli 17a.. Rebbi Jacob bat Abbay in the name of Rebbi Aḥa: One treats an ordained rabbi who forgot his learning by an act of God with the holiness of the Ark67As the Babli explains, Berakhot 8b, the Ark contained both the second whole and the first broken tablets. Therefore the broken mind of the Sage has to be treated with the reverence due to his earlier whole mind.. Rebbi Aḥa, Rebbi Tanḥum, Rebbi Ḥiyya in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: Excommunication by an ordained rabbi who excommunicated for his personal benefit is no excommunication68The opposite is noted (but not recommended) in the Babli, 17a..
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